Oscar Talk 2008/09 - Werner Herzog v Ellen Kuras BODYSLAM!!

Smithie · Site Admin Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 12640

I just wanted to get the thread refreshed. I'm open to ideas on the title.
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jonny · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject:

i don't know about a title. but blanche? please explain yourself:

jonny · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject:

and although some want to think that everyone watches on the tv anxiously awaiting their name, i imagine some of these people actively avoid it as to not jinx themselves or some other superstition like that.

Above the Title · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject:

To continue with the Best Song discussion (because it's always nice to step away from Best Actress for a nanosecond), I would urge you, jeng, to stay for the whole song when you get to see the film. In a way I thought it actually made the ending more finite. It seemed to be an extension of the plot and specifically Rourke's character. I think that is what's so frustrating about the snub. They make it this big point to analyze what the song adds to the story and, in this particular case, even though it was over the credits, it didn't feel like they called up Springsteen three weeks before it was set to open and asked him to pen something to get an extra Oscar nomination. This is not even to say it deserved to get in over the three nominees, which are pretty deserving in their own right. I just thought there was enough out there to have a five song category this year.

And, no, I don't think it's too hyperbolic to call the lyrics prolific. Maybe when they're out of context but I honestly thought they captured the character so well. And, really, it's the Boss so it's not like the praise for his skills is unwarranted in any respect.

Mahogany Soul · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 11032

Also, now that I've realized it's 5:30 there and not 8:30 like where I am, I don't blame them for being sleep. I wish somebody would call me that early. It better be to tell me I won.

Above the Title · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject:

Every time we discuss whether people are awake and watching TV or not, I think of Evan Rachel Wood throwing a slumber party for herself and then not hearing her name announced.

Also, to shift back to the noms themselves, I said that I thought Best Actor was particularly strong this year. I'd say 2002 was also incredibly strong (Brody, Nicholson, Day-Lewis, Cage and Cane) as was 2006 (Hoffman, Ledger, Straithairn, Phoenix and Howard). The weakest year for Best Actor this decade was definitely 2001 (Washington, Crowe, Wilkinson, Smith and Penn). For Best Actress, my favorite year of the decade was definitely 2005 (Swank, Staunton, Winslet, Bening and Moreno). The weakest year was 2006 (Witherspoon, Huffman, Dench, Knightley and Theron). For Best Supporting Actress, my favorite year was 2005 (Blanchett, Portman, Madsen, Okonedo and Linney) and my least favorite was 2002 (Zellweger, Aghdashloo, Hunter, Clarkson and Harden). Not surprisingly, I couldn't find a Best Supporting Actor category I particularly cared for.

diplomatic machine gun · Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 2500

For the title of the thread, I nominate "The Skanks in the Back of the Class." Why? Because of this awesome blurb by Dana Stevens, Slate magazine's film critic, in her article this morning:

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Smithie · Site Admin Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 12640

Good one, diplo, but I came up with my own. Smile

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bradcar77 · Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 11365

Man... I was going to suggest "Will Winless Winslet Win One?" but since the last title was Kate based and the topic has been discussed to death, so probably not the best choice. But it had alliteration and sort of a tongue twister too!

Smithie · Site Admin Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 12640

That's a good one though. You should post it on a Variety blog (if there are any, I don't know) and see if it winds up in their Awards issue.
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Deet · Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 13972

Do you think Herzog will show up? I mean, probably not, right? Unless Joaquin Phoenix is trapped under a car or something?

Then again, I'd love, FUCKING LOVE, it if Joaquin Phoenix just showed up looking the way he currently does.

malcolm1980 · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject:

Deet · Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 13972

I remember Michael Chiklis letting a crew watch him watch the nominations. He got in. But, hell no. There's no way, I'm going to A) admit that I want it that bad (I would, I'm not even gonna pretend) and B) what if I don't get it? On national television. Plus, C) it's just sorta tacky.

Big Ted · Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 16157

Following Rachel's lead...

Best "Best Actor" Lineup: 2002 (Brody, Caine, Cage, Day-Lewis, Nicholson)
Worst "Best Actor" Lineup: 2006 (DiCaprio, Gosling, O'Toole, Smith, Whitaker)

Best "Best Actress" Lineup: 2006 (Cruz, Dench, Mirren, Streep, Winslet)
Worst "Best Actress" Lineup: 2005 (Dench, Huffman, Knightley, Theron, Witherspoon)

Best "Best Supporting Actor" Lineup: 2000 (Bridges, Dafoe, del Toro, Finney, Phoenix), although 2004 was good too (Alda, Church, Foxx, Freeman, Owen)
Worst "Best Supporting Actor" Lineup: 2005 (Clooney, Dillon, Giamatti, Gyllenhaal, Hurt)

Best "Best Supporting Actress" Lineup: 2001 (Connelly, Mirren, Smith, Tomei, Winslet)
Worst "Best Supporting Actress" Lineup: 2002 (Bates, Moore, Latifah, Streep, Zeta-Jones)

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Mahogany Soul · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 11032

His hat is so the next big thing.

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Deet · Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 13972

It looks like a pair of totally fubar'd underwear.

Mista Q · Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1563 Location: Champaign, IL

Following Ted and Rachel's lead...

Best "Best Actor" Lineup: 2002 (Brody, Cage, Caine, Day-Lewis, Nicholson)
Worst "Best Actor" Lineup: 2004 (Cheadle, Depp, DiCaprio, Eastwood, Foxx)

Best "Best Actress" Lineup: 2006 (Cruz, Dench, Mirren, Streep, Winslet)
Worst "Best Actress" Lineup: 2007 (Blanchett, Christie, Cotillard, Linney, Page)

Best "Best Supporting Actor" Lineup: 2002 (Cooper, Harris, Newman, Reilly, Walken)
Worst "Best Supporting Actor" Lineup: 2005 (Clooney, Dillon, Giamatti, Gyllenhaal, Hurt)

Best "Best Supporting Actress" Lineup: 2008 (Adams, Cruz, Davis, Henson, Tomei)
Worst "Best Supporting Actress" Lineup: 2006 (Barraza, Blanchett, Breslin, Hudson, Kikuchi)
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malcolm1980 · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:22 pm Post subject:

I just found out Martin McDonagh is actually an Oscar-winner already. He won a couple of years ago for Best Short Live-Action Short (Six-Shooter).

Which brings me to the question, how many people who have been nominated or won in the Short Film categories go on to bigger, better things? It seems to me for most of them, their respective wins/nominations in these categories is the most high-profile point in their respective film caeers.
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Raybee · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 3034

I'm just so happy the Academy righted the Winslet in supporting thing. And she is now officially tied with Deborah Kerr and Thelma Ritter as the biggest losers amongst females. All have 6 nominations and no wins. That should be remedied next month though. I don't see her losing unless she pulls a Russell Crowe at the BAFTAs.