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Ditty



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, i wasn't sure why he was just not given the opportunity to use his aussie accent. and perhaps it's a bias because i know he's a fellow aussie but seriously his accent is nothing more than an aussie throwing in a few words with an american twang. it's terrible. i'm really surprised more haven't said they've noticed it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought he and the other jarhead types were enlisted men who were there supporting the mining operation, much as the American military has done for over a century.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, he was an american soldier but i'm just not sure why he had to be. i don't know why he couldn't just have been a soldier.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithie wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought he and the other jarhead types were enlisted men who were there supporting the mining operation, much as the American military has done for over a century.


Maybe, its a detail I don't recall. I thought they were hired private security like in Aliens.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oddly-enough, this reminded me most, quality-wise, of Jurassic Park: thin characters (was Giovanni Ribisi a complete, 100% carbon copy of Paul Reiser in Aliens or what?), bad dialogue (albeit sometimes effectively-campy), decent score, masterfully-staged action sequences, marvelous visual effects, and a bad, bad, super bad screenplay. Still, I did enjoy it overall and I give James Cameron kudos for making something solid out of material that otherwise could've translated into a catastrophic mess. I don't think it deserves Best Picture or Best Director (and certainly not a Best Screenplay nod), but I won't cringe should it perform a semi-sweep in the tech fields.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those robots that the humans sat in reminded me so much of Aliens. They are definitely modeled after that film, right?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or any mech warrior game.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A fun article comparing Avatar to "Tik-Tok" that was on NPR the other day...listen to it if you can, but the read's good too:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122261912
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'm the last person to see this film, but I finally saw it this morning on IMAX 3D. I'm definitely in the "looks pretty, but eh" camp. The story and dialogue were painfully bad, and Worthington's wildly inconsistent accent drove me crazy. However, it was very cool to watch, and I did enjoy how thoroughly Pandora was imagined. As much as I thought the experience of watching the film was cool, it didn't really compensate for the awful story. Since I liked watching it aesthetically, I give the film a pass, but it's a very qualified pass. It doesn't come anywhere near my personal top ten films of 2009, though, so I would not prefer it to win Oscars outside of the techs, but I'm prepared for that scenario.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

George Lucas congratulates James Cameron awesomely.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's from 97 or 98, whenever it was that Titanic overtook Star Wars as the highest grossing movie. It was a full page ad in Variety, I think.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I thought that was old. Now Cameron has to send a congratulations note to himself. Which I'm sure he does every day anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops...moving this from the What Film? thrad...Finally saw Avatar today. It was better than I expected, but not great. Visually, it was pretty lovely, and I thought Worthington and Weaver were terrific. The first two hours felt like Screenwriting 101, though, and was just full of a lot of obvious choices and long, boring stretches. The last hour or so, though, I enjoyed a good bit more. I thought the final scene was really lovely. Cameron isn't a terrible director, when he stops jerking off to himself, basically. And the general theme of the movie is a good one for the masses to have presented to them, I think...that of preserving our planet, environment, etc. And the evils of war and uber-urbanization. Themes which were beat over the head with giant mallets by, unfortunately. My poor mom, who is the reason I went to watch it, had to leave 30 minutes in, though, the 3D was too much for her. She gets motion sickness, etc. and she just couldn't do it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg wrote:
And the general theme of the movie is a good one for the masses to have presented to them, I think...that of preserving our planet, environment, etc. And the evils of war and uber-urbanization.


I haven't talk about the film's messages because it hasn't been bought up, but no. Especially "the evils of war". This film tries to be anti-war, but then ended up with a whole hour of war where "the good guys" won by killing the bad guys. So basically, war is only evil when you are losing.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diplomatic machine gun wrote:
Yeah I thought that was old. Now Cameron has to send a congratulations note to himself. Which I'm sure he does every day anyway.

Oh, and if Bigelow wins the Oscar, it will be thanks to him, of course.
Because, as he's said several times HE was the one who convinced her to do Hurt Locker when she was about to pass and do another movie.
And now he's saying that if anyone elde should win the Oscar besides him, it has to be Bigelow.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kin888 wrote:
Greg wrote:
And the general theme of the movie is a good one for the masses to have presented to them, I think...that of preserving our planet, environment, etc. And the evils of war and uber-urbanization.


I haven't talk about the film's messages because it hasn't been bought up, but no. Especially "the evils of war". This film tries to be anti-war, but then ended up with a whole hour of war where "the good guys" won by killing the bad guys. So basically, war is only evil when you are losing.


Oh, are we gonna get into the presentation of it's themes now? Simplistic, moralazling pap that runs roughshod over the issues it presents with a staggeringly narrow viewpoint. Whole books will be written one day about just how terrible it is in that department.
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